Live With Kellye and Ken

“Live with Kellye & Ken” is an online running dialogue about the present and future of legal education. Each month, Deans Emeritus Kellye Testy (LSAC CEO) and Ken Randall (iLaw Founder and President) lead expert panels of law school deans in engaging online discussions of today’s important topics surrounding legal education and leadership.


Upcoming Events

Topic: Gender Equity and Law
Date: August 26, 2019, at 4:00-5:00 pm ET (3:00-4:00 pm CT; 1:00-2:00 pm PT)

Webinar Description: Join us for the August edition of Live with Kellye and Ken on Women's Equality Day, Monday, August 26th. Women's Equality Day commemorates the 1920 ratification of the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which coincides with this month’s focus on gender issues in the law and the implications for gender equality, gender identity, and gender expression in legal education and the legal profession.

Joining the discussion are:

  • Dean Jane Aiken, Wake Forest
  • Dean Angela Onwuachi-Willig, Boston University
  • Dean Risa Goluboff, Virginia
  • Dean Tamara Lawson, St. Thomas

Archived Events

Topic: Innovations in Learning Assessments
July 2019

Joining the discussion:

  • Dean Melanie Wilson, Tennessee
  • Dean Luke Bierman, Elon
  • Exec. Assoc. Dean Christiana Ochoa, Indiana
  • Mark Raymond, Assessment Consultant
  • Kellie Hill, Khan Academy

Topic: Declining Bar Passage and the Role of Law Schools in Bar Exam Prep and Reform
May 2019

Joining the discussion:

  • Dean Aviva Abramovsky, Buffalo
  • Dean Len Baynes, Houston
  • Dean Jon Garon, Nova Southeastern
  • Judith Gundersen, NCBE

Topic: Law and Leadership: If You Build It, They Will Come
April 2019

Joining the discussion:

  • Dean Matthew Diller, Fordham
  • Dean Garry Jenkins, Minnesota
  • Professor Deborah Rhode, Stanford
  • Dean Gordon Smith, Brigham Young
  • Associate Dean Leah Teague, Baylor

Title: March Madness: The Present and Future of Law School Rankings
March 2019
Joining the discussion:

  • Bob Morse, U.S. News & World Report
  • Michael Sauder, co-author, Engines of Anxiety: Academic Rankings, Reputation, and Accountability
  • Dean Trish White, Miami
  • Dean Kim Yuracko, Northwestern

Title: The Financial Landscape of Legal Education
February 2019
Joining the discussion:

• Dean Jerry Anderson, Drake
• Dean Danielle Holley-Walker, Howard
• Dean Kevin Johnson, UC Davis
• Dean Lyrissa Lidsky, Missouri

Title: Law and Technology 
January 2019
Joining the discussion:

  • Dean Megan Carpenter, New Hampshire
  • Dean Anthony Niedwiecki, Golden Gate
  • Dean Hari Osofsky, Penn State
  • Dean Andy Perlman, Suffolk
  • Dean Song Richardson, UC Irvine

Title: Diversity & Inclusion in Legal Education
December 2018
Joining the discussion:

  • Cassandra Ogden, CLEO
  • Dean Jennifer Rosato, DePaul
  • Dean Henry Butler, George Mason
  • Dean Kevin Washburn, University of Iowa

Title: The Dean as Entrepreneur
November 2018
Joining the discussion:

  • Dean Erwin Chemerinsky, University of California Berkley
  • Dean James Hackney, Northeastern
  • Dean Laura Rosenbury, Florida
  • Dean Douglas Sylvester, Arizona State

Title: Why Now is a Great Time to Go to Law School: Inside Info from the Deans
October 2018
Joining the discussion:

  • Dean Mark Alexander, Villanova
  • Dean Heather Gerkin, Yale
  • Dean Jennifer Mnookin, UCLA
  • Dean Blake Morant, George Washington

Title: Late-Breaking from the ABA: A Discussion on Recent Decisions
September 2018
Joining the discussion:

  • Dean Kellye Testy, LSAC
  • Dean Ken Randall, iLaw

Kellye Testy was the 14th dean and first woman to lead the University of Washington School of Law, a post she held from 2009-2017. She now serves as the president and CEO of the Law School Admission Council (LSAC). A prolific scholar, outstanding teacher, and experienced administrator, Testy focuses her research and scholarship on contracts, corporate governance, business entities, leadership, and access to justice. She is known throughout academic and legal communities for her dedication to the rule of law and her commitment to justice and equality.


Ken Randall is the President and Founder of iLaw. Ken was dean of The University of Alabama School of Law for twenty years prior to founding iLaw in 2012 Ken’s tenure was a period of significant transformation at Alabama’s law school, where he established the first online LL.M. delivered by an ABA-accredited law school. Employing best business practices and strategic decision-making, Ken helped propel Alabama to a Top 25 law school ranking. Randall was the first Chair of the Technology Committee of the ABA Section of Legal Education. Ken practiced law with Simpson Thacher & Bartlett in New York. He holds the J.D. from Hofstra, where he was Editor-in-Chief of the Law Review; the LL.M. from Yale; and the LL.M. and J.SD. from Columbia.